Problems with shutting windows 98

An program or terminate-and-stay-resident TSR program may not close correctly. An incompatible, damaged, or conflicting device driver is loaded. A damaged Exit Windows sound file. Incorrectly configured or damaged hardware. The Fast Shutdown registry key is enabled. In addition, the Fast Shutdown code which was implemented with the initial release of Windows 98 has been removed to support these new features.

Although Windows 98 Second Edition includes many new drivers, not all third-party manufacturers have had a chance to update their hardware drivers. To help reduce the amount of time you spent determining the origin of your issue, first examine the following: Q. Has anything in the computer changed since it worked correctly the last time you shut the computer down? If something has changed, that is probably the origin of the issue.

Make sure that if you installed something that is compatible with the hardware and software already on your computer. If nothing has changed, try the steps in the "Check the Programs that Are Running" section of this article.

After you restart your computer in Safe mode and then shut down, does your computer shut down properly? If it does not shut down properly, see the Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement section in this article. Do you have enough space on your computer to install into a new folder?

This may be the quickest method to determine if you are dealing with a hardware level issue. If you install into a new folder, apply the Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement as referenced in this article, and you still experience problems shutting down, check with your hardware manufacturer for an updated BIOS or other workaround.

For additional information about installing Windows 98 into a new folder, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q How to Install Windows 98 Into a New Folder. What are you experiences?

Any remedies? However the MS patch, once applied worked and is still going OK as I have no more problems and the window "It is safe I wonder if the problem is not specific to the board you are using.

The only solution has been to hit the power switch. The fact that the MS patch does not permanently fix this problem has cost us and our clients a lot of time and resources. Ive seen this alot too. We have 30 workstations mostly Gateway computers on a Novell 4.

I already applied the patch also, with no lasting results. Currently having everyone making sure they close all apps properly then using the power switch. RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem From hearing everyone's testimonies, this does not seem to be hardware-specific, as Microsoft would like to imply. We are now up to the 3. We have found 3 possible solutions since Microsoft's Supplemental Shutdown patch did not work for us EXE user.

This can be downloaded from www. All 3 of these solutions seem to work, depending on how much you want to work at it or pay for it. Before powering off again and going into Safe Mode to shut it down properly, bring up the End Task window Ctrl-Alt-Del and see if Wm95sast is sitting there!

If it is, that seems to be the culprit! That is Novell's workstation manager. I have been testing the updated USER. The issue, the way I see it, is identical to the issue experienced with IE 4 prior to SP1, where if you had any network drives mapped at shutdown it would hang. IE4 SP1 resolved this issue. This issue is not hardware specific. However, I went to the MS article you listed, and they provided me with a link that is suppose to lead me to the "fix".

But going to that link only got me to where I must contact their tech support to obtain the fix. Can you tell me an easier to get the fix, or if you have it, to forward a copy to me? Thanks for all your help. In fact, I spent several hours of wasted time trying to overcome the problem on the first install before I saw it was a software problem with SE. It is not consistent with every build and sometimes seems to vary with the possible varieties of OS installs. However, I have rarely seen a problem upon startup after shutting the power down when the "waiting" screen is still visible after waiting a few seconds before power off.

RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem You repeated the content of my second reply to this thread which, mysteriously, seems to be missing from the forum. In any case, bookfndr, thanks for providing the answer. When in doubt, shut it down. Windows finishes its internal housekeeping within a few seconds of a shut-down.

It isn't always able to tell you that it's okay to hit the power switch. Trying to fix everything, I also lost all power management functions. Thanks, all. Theres a shutdow updat available from Microsfts webpage. Just run the exe and alls ok. The patch only works temporarily. Put the fix on about 3 weeks ago and now again I'm having the same problem BUT I have installed a lot of software since the fix.

Can you post this file for download. I did try the shareware program "shutdown now! It seems to work on all pc's. Just power down an restart. I have a cyber room that runs 5 win98se systems, So what if you do a hard down, then you know if your drivers are good. If they hang at shut down I just reboot and SanDK runs. I tell my computers what they DO, not what want to do. I have many clients that I do off site network admin for. You are correct that it has nothing to do with who the OEM hardware supplier is.

It seems to happen with processor speeds over MHz on Novel Networks 3. I have loaded both MS Shudown. The problem goes away sometimes for a short while and then comes back. It does not happen on every shutdown but on most.

Does that mean the problem is good for NT? I am going to try some of the solutions listed by others in this thread and let you know. RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem Perhaps you have too many programs running in the background?

Several machines at work had the same problem and I shut everything but systray and explorer down in the system configuration utility and it stopped. Ah reckon that there were just so many things trying to shut down that the machine gave up and sat there staring off into space RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem Microsoft finally released another update with regards to this issue. Although, they claim the issue is specifically with boxes mapping a lot of drives.

Anyway, here is the link to the patch. I am going to get everyone to log off Novell before shutting down and see how that works. Something to try- I used this to figure out a similar problem with 95 clients Log in but don't open any mapped drives if possible.

Try to shutdown. It may shutdown OK. When shutdown would hang,I found that when running scandisk after the reboot I noticed a "fixed" flash when checking free space. I never really had time to figure out why as we updated the network shortly after. I apologize if this is redundant. Thought it might help. Al atc-computing home. I know that if you log off of your network, the system does not hang on shutdown. Another work-around I have found helpful is to just hold down shift while clicking OK on shutdown.

Just networked 3 Compaq Presarios yuk. The other machine is a Compaq Prof. AP with embedded NIC which had no problem. Most of the machines I sell are Abit or Intel mainboard based and have never seen this problem before. I wonder if it is somehow a Compaq thing. Does anyone know if Compaq has addressed this problem at all? I would say it is not a Compaq problem or any hardware vendor for that matter.

The patch worked for a day or so to stop the lockup on shutdown only. When I loaded a CDRom burner, then the system would not continue to run long enough to even run diagnostics. Everything is working really well now. We have a small under 10 units network, so microsoft does not recommend that we go to WIN, but my primary machine is a hardy homebuilt NT workstation. I have a couple of dell precision workstations here and they have built in USB ports.

I am not sure if they work as I have not tested them. If only one of your programmers thinks they will need usb support then leave their computer running win98 and switch the rest to NT. That leaves you with one headache and 9 stable units. Just a thought, fenris fenris hotmail. Instead of keeping the programmers box at Win9x I couldn't get a clear answer as to why, except that perhaps a lot of tweaking would be required.

All encouragement for switching to W2K is appreciated I cannot deal with SE anymore for sure. You should wait for Windows Millenium. Anyone concerned about security or stability should move straight to HP tech say HP "must have" changed the driver that Cirrus provided because the driver downloaded from cirrus now won't run the sound chip on the motherboard.

The HP support tech suggests I put in another soundcard, but there's not much room in this tight little package Guess my problems are going to be somewhat hardware specific due to proprietary modification of drivers and firmware? I need the sound card for speech to text transcription[critical], testing wav files for webpages, burning Barbershop practice CDs, etc. Right now, must work sound on Toshiba laptop, then transfer files thru the 98 box for uploads and CD creation.

Any 98SE PC that had problems hanging on shutdown were fixed with this option disabled. This is an easy fix that you might want to give a try. Please let me know how it turns out. Basicly what I found that fixed it was to delete or rename the logow. It appears that sometimes the file is corrupt.

Hope this helps. Try downloading the newest drivers or try installing your pc plainly and then install driver by driver to find out where the problem is.

After a crash to my system, I reinstalled Win98SE. Now, my system will NOT shutdown. No matter how i try to shutdown. It only restarts. I tried reinstalling Win98SE.

Same thing happens. Any ideas? RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem I suggest that you follow the steps listed below to prevent your system from lockups : Please note that having higher system resources at bootup directly increases your system performance, especially while Multitasking activities are performed simultaneously.

Windows comes with an application that will allow you to configure what programs will start up when you boot the computer. You will then see a window with several tabs at the top.

Click on the startup tab. A list of applications will be shown with check boxes denoting which applications are being selected to start at bootup. Systray displays the time and other icons for applications running in the background. Scanregistry makes backup copies of the registry that can be restored if a software installation corrupts the registry.

The main programs other than those mentioned above are: Scan Registry LoadPowerProfile should be listed twice Vsecomr. The system will prompt you to restart, and acknowledge that with yes. The desktop will most likely look different and you may lose some functionality depending on what you unchecked. You can either run the program from the start menu or simply add the check back the way you unchecked until you have a balance between running applications and enough resources to smoothly operate on your machine In addition to the above, we also suggest that you delete the Temporary Internet files.

These temporary files are usually deleted when the program is closed. We advise that you make it a habit to delete these files from the above-mentioned folder regularly. Double-click on the My Computer icon on the desktop. Double-click on the C: drive. Double-click on the Windows folder. Double-click on the Temp folder.

Click on the Edit pull-down menu then click on Select All. All files in this folder should then be highlighted. Press the Delete key on the keyboard. Answer Yes to any prompts about deleting files. NOTE: If you receive a message stating that a particular file could not be deleted then continue deleting the remaining files until as many files as possible have been deleted.

Hard drive maintenance: Scandisk and Defragmenter are the two utilities that should be executed on a regular basis. Both of these utilities can be accessed through start, programs, accessories, system tools. You may have a problem with both of these utilities hanging or restarting. If this occurs, run the utilities in safe mode. To get into safe mode: First restart the computer. When the first red Compaq logo appears on the screen, hold down the control CTRL key in the bottom-left hand corner of the keyboard.

This will bring you to the Windows 98 startup menu. When this comes up, release the control key. Use the arrow keys on the keyboard to get to safe mode, which should be number three, and press Enter. This will load Windows safe mode. Thanks el mucho. Holding shift while clicking OK on shutdown works like a charm. Have not yet installed update. My question is, what housekeeping is the system missing out on by using these methods?

Or are we just missing out on the opportunity to stare at a logo while heading for the white switch? It has something to do with mapped drives. I have installed this fix on over 30 machines and it has worked on all except 1 which turned out to be a different problem. Give it a try, I think you'll like it.

I just disabled Win98SE being the only interface; mine works like 3. BAT after everything else i. No problems should arise because "this is the way it's been done for thousands of years". Try it. SYS editing tips. Good luck. SYS editing should be done with extreme caution because it is one of the three important files that DOS and Windows need to run.

Make sure you understand the text before you go changing settings. RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem i have facing so many pc"s with win98 o. RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem I dont wish to rain on anybodies grissles, but the network I have been looking after for quite some time now is working quite well after I made some changes and added both patches.

The original patch for the shutdown and USER. EXE patch work well in tandem. Before I had to redo them about every 2 months, since the mod about 3 months ago touch wood we have had no problems. So let's talk about what works, not what does MS have to do. We are the Techs lets do what we are paid to do, solve the problem. It appears that not just one fix will do the job. So come on guys and gals lets work together. Steven Walker strider paradise. Or does anyone actually know how to solve the WinME shutdown isue?

What is the problem and how i can solve it? RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem Hi all, I had tried all of the suggestions in this forum without any luck, but for a slightly different problem. Disabling SoundBlaster 16 emulation in device manager was supposed to help the DMA situation and it didn't. But all of a sudden, my system restarts like it's supposed to. It actually scared me because I've never heard it restart since I built it 2 weeks ago.

I guess I his resart by accident and I didn't know what the weird noises were at first. I enabled SB16 again which you don't need unless you play DOS games, the article said and she locks up again.

So that was definitely the cause of my problem. I hope it works for others I let McAfee handle it, it took like 2 and a half hours. Everything worked fine upon reboot, except mcafee. I says that vsecomr. The patch not always worked. The research I did was that if you have Norton Anti-virus on your system, this would cause the problem.

If you go to their web site they have the step to remedy the issue. RE: Win 98 Second Edition shutdown problem I came across this twice and it was application oriented, for example once it was Simply accounting. If you used it and saved info upon shutdown freezeup every time. Went to simply accounting home page and forum suggested to put graphics performance slide to none. The same sometimes happens with NU I approached their Tech Support and they are looking into it.

An update on the systems When I go to shut down my whole screen freezes up. Then I have to use drastic measures and shut the power of After I shut the power of I am able to restart with no problem. DE site - look for system-utilities; I'm using this one for 3 days now, so far so good. Hope it might be a little help. I have disabled "fast shutdown and removed entry for Bitware from file "Autoexec. Now it seems to be ok. EXE in run window.

In other words just check only the above option. Click ok button. Shutdown your computer and restart again. Hope your problem will be solved. Have tried all the user info from MS without any success. I've solved the problem editting the registry. Just run the "regedit. In the Shutdown folder change the value of the term "Fastreboot" to 0. This method has worked in several different machines.

Hope it solves the problem Any ideas, I would love to hear them. And you will reboot, i think this will If you're asking for technical help, please be sure to include all your system info, including operating system, model number, and any other specifics related to the problem. Also please exercise your best judgment when posting in the forums--revealing personal information such as your e-mail address, telephone number, and address is not recommended. Please note: Do not post advertisements, offensive material, profanity, or personal attacks.

Please remember to be considerate of other members. All submitted content is subject to our Terms Of Use. General discussion. I have an older Pentium , with a 1. It was originally loaded with Windows '95, but was upgraded recently to Windows ' Now, however, the machine does not shutdown. It goes into a "loop", and restarts itself. Is there anyway to remedy this? Share Flag.

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